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Stephanie Evergreen replied on March 4, 2024 at 1:26 pm in reply to: Who wants to re-up with me in 2023? #4519
Susanne – How exciting that you get to be paid well to learn something you’ve been wanting to learn! That’s very fortunate. Good for you!
Stephanie Evergreen replied on March 4, 2024 at 1:25 pm in reply to: Workstream planning tools? #4518I wish I had a better system but mine is also a penciled in table inside my work notebook!
Stephanie Evergreen replied on March 4, 2024 at 1:24 pm in reply to: Funnel platforms – insight from users and non- #4517Hey Lisa – what do you mean by a funnel platform here?
Stephanie Evergreen replied on March 4, 2024 at 1:23 pm in reply to: Any experience pricing for developmental evaluations? #4516Hi Robin!
There are few different ways you could approach this.
One way would be on a retainer. “Thought partnership during the emergent phase of the project costs $xxxK”, which is based mostly on the value you’ll bring, regardless of the hours you put in (we’re disconnecting time and worth).
Another option could certainly be hourly. I’ve done this before. But with a very specific and limited scope before we check back in and define the rest of the scope and the cost. The moment you get yourself into tasks that are fast and easy for you to do because you have the skill level and experience to be incredibly efficient, you should be in flat fee pricing.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on March 4, 2024 at 1:09 pm in reply to: Broad question about client base #4515I love this conversation so much. Just wanted to chime in to say you’re noticing the right things (like when too many of your clients are repeat – that means you’re in a holding pattern, which might be fine for some seasons). You can and should absolutely ask your clients if they know of anyone else who can use your services. Word of mouth will always be your strongest marketing tool. People just need to be prompted to do it.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 28, 2024 at 3:36 pm in reply to: Insights on shared IP work and/or royalties #4489Lots of good questions in here Lisa. First of all, flat fee does not mean work for hire. Flat fee just means this is the cost. You can have both flat fee and preserve your intellectual property.
You truly get to make up how you want this to look. So one possibility for pricing would be a flat fee that covers development of the course and then a royalty on every sale. Or royalties start after the first 100 sales. You get to say whatever you want! They get to negotiate back.
As for IP you can state something in the contract about how you retain your IP but you license your IP to them for perpetual use, which gives you both the latitude to do what you set out to do.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 26, 2024 at 12:14 pm in reply to: Hello Boosting Buddies! #4460Kateri, your roll out plan sounds very realistic and doable. You’ve got this.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 22, 2024 at 1:35 pm in reply to: Looking for links referenced in modules #4432Let’s leave it in case anyone else has the same question 🙂
Welcome to the party, Rye! I’m so glad you’re here.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 15, 2024 at 3:18 pm in reply to: Looking for accountability buddies / connections #4394I love so many things about this.
In May, I’ll connect anyone who wants into Fellow Founders groups of 4-5 so you an affinity circle moving forward. But it never hurts to get an accountability buddy too. And just generally, you’re a really good person and a delight to know.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 15, 2024 at 2:56 pm in reply to: Website Platform Advice? #4390My sites are all built on WordPress but they’re complicated and I have a dedicated IT guy who can do things I can’t. If you’re site doesn’t need as much, Squarespace is fine. I just used it to help a friend revamp her therapy site last weekend and it was pretty easy to drag and drop.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 12, 2024 at 5:14 pm in reply to: Intro and pivot question #4362This is so great, Johanna! Take comfort in working for the big dogs. They’re funding your time to develop tools to help the Global South. And providing you with some credibility. A course is a great idea! I think it’ll just be a matter of getting in front of that audience to market to them.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 7, 2024 at 7:16 pm in reply to: Inviting input on my product ladder #4347Hey Robin,
Good questions.
One option, rather than the lengthy discussions to get to the contract, would be to offer an evaluability assessment. Like, get paid to have that conversation, even look at their infrastructure, and assess whether they’re ready for evaluation. (The outcome could be what you’re listing in Level 5.)
To me, your levels 4-7 seem to be interconnected and I’m not sure it would be worth offering them as standalone pieces to a client. You kind of need all of those levels to do a quality job.
Training (Level 8) is a great idea, but usually less expensive that a full evaluation, so I’d put it lower on the ladder.
I’m saying all this with what little I know about your work, so just take it as a consideration.
Stephanie Evergreen replied on February 7, 2024 at 6:50 pm in reply to: Question about product ladders #4346Hi friends,
It seems like this would be a good question for someone to submit to Office Hours. But let me see if I can provide some perspective here for now.
One part of why you want to “productize” something like consulting is so that you aren’t stretching yourself in a million directions for any client and any whim they have. Focusing on a few things you do well is (1) much better for your sanity and (2) way easier to market. You have to get comfortable telling a prospective client “That’s not in my wheelhouse.”
One example product ladder for an evaluator could be:
Free guide (one-time interaction)
Free newsletter (ongoing interaction)
Evaluability assessment (are you even ready for an evaluation?)
Evaluation capacity-building workshop (less expensive than an evaluation)
Full-blown evaluationWithin the full-blown evaluation, of course you’ll customize what you do on a case-by-case basis.
But if a prospective client calls and asks for you to just do the analysis on data they collected, would you say yes? I wouldn’t. (I wouldn’t analyze data I didn’t collect – you *know* there will have been collection problems.) It would cheapen your work, require just as much admin as bigger projects, lower your quality, and communicate that you can be piecemealed.
Does this help at all?
Everyone’s product ladder will look different but I recommend ultimately striving to not have too many rungs. And it’s ok if some rungs at this stage are aspirational.
Oof Megan, I’ve been there. When I was at the university in an evaluation unit, it was the same situation. You start eyeing those 50% overheads and wondering what you could do with a bigger cut of that in your pocket. At this point in your journey, you’ll want to get started on some kind of thought leadership/email collection activity so that when you’re really ready to take the leap, you’ll have a following ready to go.